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	<title>Comments on: Installing Catalyst Isn&#8217;t A Destination, It&#8217;s A Journey</title>
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	<description>What is the use of repeating all that stuff, if you don&#039;t explain it as you go on?</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://techblog.geeksqueal.com/2010/03/16/installing-catalyst-isnt-a-destination-its-a-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 07:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tutorial does have a Makefile.PL, as part of Task::Catalyst::Tutorial.

That still means you have to run that, and let it sit and update many modules.  They all stop and ask questions and need attention.  Once you&#039;ve updated half of Catalyst, you have to go back and check that everything else that depends on it (since you&#039;re installing globally instead of in local::lib) still works.

One good thing is that the Catalyst guys are really careful with updates.  I have yet to have a Catalyst update break a working app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tutorial does have a Makefile.PL, as part of Task::Catalyst::Tutorial.</p>
<p>That still means you have to run that, and let it sit and update many modules.  They all stop and ask questions and need attention.  Once you&#8217;ve updated half of Catalyst, you have to go back and check that everything else that depends on it (since you&#8217;re installing globally instead of in local::lib) still works.</p>
<p>One good thing is that the Catalyst guys are really careful with updates.  I have yet to have a Catalyst update break a working app.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://techblog.geeksqueal.com/2010/03/16/installing-catalyst-isnt-a-destination-its-a-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 06:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I understand that these projects are quick moving.  I recommend using a Makefile.PL to track versions, along with local::lib to manage your dependencies.  That way you don&#039;t get lost in the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I understand that these projects are quick moving.  I recommend using a Makefile.PL to track versions, along with local::lib to manage your dependencies.  That way you don&#8217;t get lost in the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://techblog.geeksqueal.com/2010/03/16/installing-catalyst-isnt-a-destination-its-a-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; The tutorial does have a Makefile.PL, as part of 
&gt; Task::Catalyst::Tutorial.

Hm. I&#039;m not seeing that. In the &lt;a href=&quot;http://search.cpan.org/~hkclark/Catalyst-Manual-5.8004/lib/Catalyst/Manual/Tutorial/01_Intro.pod&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Intro&lt;/a&gt; it says, &quot;You can obtain the code for all the tutorial examples from the catalyst subversion repository&quot; -- which I did, and ... there it is in &lt;i&gt;each chapter&lt;/i&gt;. Ah. I was looking for something in the top level. Well. I learn something new every day...

I would agree (and am &lt;i&gt;thrilled&lt;/i&gt;) that &quot;the Catalyst guys are really careful with updates.&quot; It&#039;s one of the few Open Source projects I&#039;m willing to just keep current without too much worry. (Gold Star to them.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> The tutorial does have a Makefile.PL, as part of<br />
> Task::Catalyst::Tutorial.</p>
<p>Hm. I&#8217;m not seeing that. In the <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~hkclark/Catalyst-Manual-5.8004/lib/Catalyst/Manual/Tutorial/01_Intro.pod" rel="nofollow">Intro</a> it says, &#8220;You can obtain the code for all the tutorial examples from the catalyst subversion repository&#8221; &#8212; which I did, and &#8230; there it is in <i>each chapter</i>. Ah. I was looking for something in the top level. Well. I learn something new every day&#8230;</p>
<p>I would agree (and am <i>thrilled</i>) that &#8220;the Catalyst guys are really careful with updates.&#8221; It&#8217;s one of the few Open Source projects I&#8217;m willing to just keep current without too much worry. (Gold Star to them.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://techblog.geeksqueal.com/2010/03/16/installing-catalyst-isnt-a-destination-its-a-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tutorial does have a Makefile.PL, as part of Task::Catalyst::Tutorial.

That still means you have to run that, and let it sit and update many modules.  They all stop and ask questions and need attention.  Once you&#039;ve updated half of Catalyst, you have to go back and check that everything else that depends on it (since you&#039;re installing globally instead of in local::lib) still works.

One good thing is that the Catalyst guys are really careful with updates.  I have yet to have a Catalyst update break a working app.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tutorial does have a Makefile.PL, as part of Task::Catalyst::Tutorial.</p>
<p>That still means you have to run that, and let it sit and update many modules.  They all stop and ask questions and need attention.  Once you&#8217;ve updated half of Catalyst, you have to go back and check that everything else that depends on it (since you&#8217;re installing globally instead of in local::lib) still works.</p>
<p>One good thing is that the Catalyst guys are really careful with updates.  I have yet to have a Catalyst update break a working app.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://techblog.geeksqueal.com/2010/03/16/installing-catalyst-isnt-a-destination-its-a-journey/comment-page-1/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re using Makefile.PL for various projects and have a local mirror of CPAN ...which still blows my mind just a bit... and that seems to help.

I really wasn&#039;t thinking I needed to keep a list of dependencies for the Catalyst tutorial. I don&#039;t think the tutorial can avoid this, though. It should be one of the most up-to-date items in the documentation set, right? Maybe the tutorial download should come with its own Makefile.PL, so folks can just run that and get the current software they&#039;ll need.

I&#039;m trying to avoid using &lt;a href=&quot;http://search.cpan.org/~apeiron/local-lib-1.005001/lib/local/lib.pm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;local::lib&lt;/a&gt;, as I am working on four very different machines. My main development environment for these projects is a remote machine I SSH to (SuSE), but I also work on or from my desktop (WinXP), a &quot;throw away&quot; laptop (WinXP), and a tiny laptop (SuSE).

Trying to keep each environment up-to-date (which would require each have a local CPAN mirror ((which would need to be kept up-to-date, so I would either need to update &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; before I started work, or each machine would need to be left running on the network so it could do that automatically when I wasn&#039;t using it)) or to download each update over the &#039;net as necessary) sounds like &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; more  trouble than it&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re using Makefile.PL for various projects and have a local mirror of CPAN &#8230;which still blows my mind just a bit&#8230; and that seems to help.</p>
<p>I really wasn&#8217;t thinking I needed to keep a list of dependencies for the Catalyst tutorial. I don&#8217;t think the tutorial can avoid this, though. It should be one of the most up-to-date items in the documentation set, right? Maybe the tutorial download should come with its own Makefile.PL, so folks can just run that and get the current software they&#8217;ll need.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trying to avoid using <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~apeiron/local-lib-1.005001/lib/local/lib.pm" rel="nofollow">local::lib</a>, as I am working on four very different machines. My main development environment for these projects is a remote machine I SSH to (SuSE), but I also work on or from my desktop (WinXP), a &#8220;throw away&#8221; laptop (WinXP), and a tiny laptop (SuSE).</p>
<p>Trying to keep each environment up-to-date (which would require each have a local CPAN mirror ((which would need to be kept up-to-date, so I would either need to update <i>that</i> before I started work, or each machine would need to be left running on the network so it could do that automatically when I wasn&#8217;t using it)) or to download each update over the &#8216;net as necessary) sounds like <i>much</i> more  trouble than it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: john napiorkowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>john napiorkowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I understand that these projects are quick moving.  I recommend using a Makefile.PL to track versions, along with local::lib to manage your dependencies.  That way you don&#039;t get lost in the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I understand that these projects are quick moving.  I recommend using a Makefile.PL to track versions, along with local::lib to manage your dependencies.  That way you don&#8217;t get lost in the confusion.</p>
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